Showing posts with label women's rights. Show all posts
Showing posts with label women's rights. Show all posts

Sunday, April 20, 2008

Not brainwashed?

If you have any misgivings about the horror that is the cult at the center of the El Dorado, Texas, brouhaha, check out some sober reflections on the situation of the women involved. They will sound extremely reasonable and claim they are not brainwashed. And what brainwashed persons wouldn't deny what has been done to them?

Check out the posts by Sara Robinson at Orcinus, especially the one titled "Are FLDS women brainwashed?"

Part of what Sara writes:
The problem, as it so often is with the mainstream media, is that absolutely everybody involved with reporting or commenting on this story has been airlifted into it in the past few days. (You'd think somebody would have at least taken the time on the plane flight to skim Krakauer's book and get up to speed. You'd be wrong.) And this is just one example of the ways that ignorance of the backstory cheats the rest of us out of a real understanding of what's going on here.

Because, by the definition offered by these experts, the FLDS is very coercive indeed.

Almost every feature of these women's lives is determined by someone else. They do not choose what they wear, whom they live with, when and whom they marry, or when and with whom they have sex. From the day they're born, they can be reassigned at a moment's notice to another father or husband, another household, or another community. Most will have no educational choices (FLDS kids are taught in church-run schools, usually only through about tenth grade -- by which point they girls are usually married and pregnant). Everything they produce goes into a trust controlled by the patriarch: they do not even own their own labor. If they object to any of this, they're subject to losing access to the resources they need to raise their kids: they can be moved to a trailer with no heat, and given less food than more compliant wives, until they learn to "keep sweet."

There is more and I believe people need to be aware of what lies beneath the surface. Here I am preaching to the choir, I know. But if you hear some fatuous comments, Sara and Orcinus will provide you with information you can use.

In a second post she touches on religious freedom issues. Here is one paragraph:
There's no shortage of people in the media trying to make this a debate about religious freedom, which is fair enough. But the question they're not asking -- and the one that is central to that debate, in my mind -- is how we can reasonably and justly incorporate America's historical ideas about religious freedom with what we know now about how to identify and chart the prognosis of dangerous cults. As I've written before, governments in both Canada and the US are well aware of the signs that indicate a community headed toward violence. The FLDS exhibits almost all of those signs. As a society, it's time to figure out where the line gets crossed, and when government intervention becomes justified.
Sara will be writing more, so check it out: Orcinus, where Dave Neiwert and Sara Robinson post.

Update: h/t to digby (apologies for forgetting this at first posting)

--the BB

Thursday, January 31, 2008

WAR IS PEACE; FREEDOM IS SLAVERY; IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH - updated

Reuters photo via the Independent
Chris in Paris posted a note at Americablog about a journalist sentenced to death for downloading a report on women's rights:
Afghanistan is sentencing a journalist to death because he downloaded and distributed a report on women's rights. Is this the government that we're propping up with our soldiers and tax dollars? I understand that different cultures have different views but this is so incredibly against everything we stand for as a country. Is this really the kind of government we want to support?

You may read more at the UK Independent article, including how you may join their petition on behalf of Sayed Pervez Kambaksh. The Independent notes:
The Independent is launching a campaign today to secure justice for Mr Kambaksh. The UN, human rights groups, journalists' organisations and Western diplomats have urged Mr Karzai's government to intervene and free him. But the Afghan Senate passed a motion yesterday confirming the death sentence.

The MP who proposed the ruling condemning Mr Kambaksh was Sibghatullah Mojaddedi, a key ally of Mr Karzai. The Senate also attacked the international community for putting pressure on the Afghan government and urged Mr Karzai not to be influenced by outside un-Islamic views.
[emphasis mine]

We sure are making a difference in the Middle East and Central Asia.

UPDATE:
For several other brief updates on Afghanistan, check out Juan Cole here.  None of it is encouraging, of course.
--the BB