Sunday, April 06, 2008

Definitely a Safford

Senator Clinton spoke in Eugene, Oregon, on Saturday:
Clinton said that historians will judge if her decision was the right one, but she reminded voters that Obama’s voting record on the war is not very different than hers.

“When you want to compare, compare decisions so when Senator Obama came to the Senate, he and I voted exactly the same except for one vote and that happens to be the facts.”

Obama has been credited with foreseeing a troublesome war in Iraq primarily due to a speech he gave in 2002 while he was a state senator, where he spoke out against the war. Clinton said, “I started criticizing the war in Iraq before he did. So, I’m well aware that his entire campaign is premised on a speech he gave in 2002 and I give him credit for making that speech. But that was not a decision.” [Emphasis mine]

That's some fine criticizing, Senator Clinton.

Lefty Coaster adds this:
Here's how Hillary explained her vote for the War 14 months later after the war was already going very wrong.

Remarks by Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton

December 15, 2003
Council on Foreign Relations

I was one who supported giving President Bush the authority, if necessary, to use force against Saddam Hussein. I believe that that was the right vote. I have had many disputes and disagreements with the administration over how that authority has been used, but I stand by the vote to provide the authority because I think it was a necessary step in order to maximize the outcome that did occur in the Security Council with the unanimous vote to send in inspectors. And I also knew that our military forces would be successful. But what we did not appreciate fully and what the administration was unprepared for was what would happen the day after.

Hillary was worried about maintaining support for the War in Iraq:

I worry a lot about how difficult it will be in the political arena to stay the course...

h/t to First Amendment

For the Safford reference, see here.

There is the unvetted health care story also. Tuzla is old hat by now but that was the beginning of a rolling snowball. I came across another story Saturday that is potentially very damaging but until I see it from multiple sources I am not going to give it credence.
--the BB


Padre Mickey said...

Well, I started criticizing the war before BOTH of them, so nyah nyah nyah.

Paul said...


(Nah, we likes ya too much.)

Diane said...

his whole campaign is premised on a speech???

Paul said...

LOL. That is the smackdown tagline Sen. Clinton uses, implying strongly that he's never had to make a decision or take an action; he's all about one speech against the war in 2002. I would imagine Sen. Obama's counter smackdown tagline is that you can have all the experience in the world and still have poor judgment (as in her Iraq War vote). We watch them bruise each other while the media adoringly dry hump Sen. McCain's leg like overexcited puppies, no matter how confused, riddled with errors, inconsistent, and fatuous his utterances.

I make no pretense to being neutral.